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M1 Ultra 128GB vs M4 16GB for local LLMs

11 reports on the M1 Ultra 128GB and 26 on the M4 16GB

Which is faster for local LLMs?

On Qwen3 8B at 4-bit, the M1 Ultra 128GB has 81.2 generation tokens/s (one run); prompt processing 518.0 tokens/s (one run); the M4 16GB has 16.6 generation tokens/s (2 runs); prompt processing 219.0 tokens/s (one run). Those are community reports whose engines and settings differ, so the gap is a rough sign, not a controlled measure of the two cards. Memory bandwidth, which caps how fast a card can write, is 6.8x higher on the M1 Ultra 128GB (819 GB/s on the M1 Ultra 128GB, 120 on the M4 16GB).

M1 Ultra 128GB
Memory
128GB unified
Memory bandwidth
819 GB/s
FP16 compute
21 TFLOPS
Reports
11
M4 16GB
Memory
16GB unified
Memory bandwidth
120 GB/s
FP16 compute
4.3 TFLOPS
Reports
26

Measured on both

Generation and prompt processing speeds from plain runs (one device, one request, no speculative decoding, the whole model in the device's memory) of the same model size at the same bit class. Each side shows the engines and reported context behind its median. Context can mean a configured window or prompt depth, so these are community comparisons with differing settings. How to read these

ModelM1 Ultra 128GBM4 16GB
Qwen3 8B4-bit81.2one runPP 518.0 (one run)engine not statedcontext not stated16.62 runsPP 219.0 (one run)MLXcontext not stated

Estimated by the calculator

The quant the calculator recommends for each card and its estimated speed at a 32,768-token context with 32 GB of system RAM, from memory bandwidth and the model's shape. Where a model was also measured above, the measurement wins.

ModelM1 Ultra 128GBM4 16GB
Qwen3 8B25.2 t/sFP1626.1 t/sQ3_K_M
Qwen3.8 27B7.5 t/sFP16doesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.8 125B · 6B active34.0 t/sQ5_K_Sdoesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.6 35B · 3B active23.5 t/sFP16doesn't fit at these settings
DeepSeek V4 Flash 284B · 13B active53.5 t/sQ2_Kdoesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.6 27B7.5 t/sFP16doesn't fit at these settings
Gemma 4 26B · 4B active20.2 t/sFP16doesn't fit at these settings

Change the context, RAM or model in the calculator: M1 Ultra 128GB · M4 16GB

Every report on each card, with its source: M1 Ultra 128GB · M4 16GB

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