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M3 Ultra 512GB vs M5 Max 36GB for local LLMs

41 reports on the M3 Ultra 512GB and 12 on the M5 Max 36GB

Which is faster for local LLMs?

On Qwen3.8 27B at 4-bit, the M3 Ultra 512GB has 31.8 generation tokens/s (one run); prompt processing 391.2 tokens/s (one run); the M5 Max 36GB has 25.8 generation tokens/s (one run). Those are community reports whose engines and settings differ, so the gap is a rough sign, not a controlled measure of the two cards. Memory bandwidth, which caps how fast a card can write, is 1.8x higher on the M3 Ultra 512GB (819 GB/s on the M3 Ultra 512GB, 461 on the M5 Max 36GB).

M3 Ultra 512GB
Memory
512GB unified
Memory bandwidth
819 GB/s
FP16 compute
28.4 TFLOPS
Reports
41
M5 Max 36GB
Memory
36GB unified
Memory bandwidth
461 GB/s
FP16 compute
not on record
Reports
12

Measured on both

Generation and prompt processing speeds from plain runs (one device, one request, no speculative decoding, the whole model in the device's memory) of the same model size at the same bit class. Each side shows the engines and reported context behind its median. Context can mean a configured window or prompt depth, so these are community comparisons with differing settings. How to read these

ModelM3 Ultra 512GBM5 Max 36GB
Qwen3.8 27B4-bit31.8one runPP 391.2 (one run)MLXcontext not stated25.8one runengine not statedcontext not stated

Estimated by the calculator

The quant the calculator recommends for each card and its estimated speed at a 32,768-token context with 32 GB of system RAM, from memory bandwidth and the model's shape. Where a model was also measured above, the measurement wins.

ModelM3 Ultra 512GBM5 Max 36GB
Qwen3.8 27B8.0 t/sFP1619.7 t/sQ5_K_M
Qwen3.8 125B · 6B active13.6 t/sFP16doesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.6 35B · 3B active28.7 t/sFP1675.9 t/sQ4_K_M
DeepSeek V4 Flash 284B · 13B active22.6 t/sQ8_0doesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.6 27B8.0 t/sFP1619.7 t/sQ5_K_M
Gemma 4 26B · 4B active21.5 t/sFP1650.2 t/sQ5_K_M
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 552B · 16B active30.0 t/sQ4_K_Mdoesn't fit at these settings

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