llamaperf

M4 Max 128GB vs M5 16GB for local LLMs

52 reports on the M4 Max 128GB and 3 on the M5 16GB

Which is faster for local LLMs?

On Qwen3.8 27B at 3-bit, the M4 Max 128GB has 23.9 generation tokens/s (2 runs); prompt processing 249.7 tokens/s (2 runs); the M5 16GB has 9.0 generation tokens/s (one run). Those are community reports whose engines and settings differ, so the gap is a rough sign, not a controlled measure of the two cards. Memory bandwidth, which caps how fast a card can write, is 3.6x higher on the M4 Max 128GB (546 GB/s on the M4 Max 128GB, 154 on the M5 16GB).

M4 Max 128GB
Memory
128GB unified
Memory bandwidth
546 GB/s
FP16 compute
18.4 TFLOPS
Reports
52
M5 16GB
Memory
16GB unified
Memory bandwidth
154 GB/s
FP16 compute
not on record
Reports
3

Measured on both

Generation and prompt processing speeds from plain runs (one device, one request, no speculative decoding, the whole model in the device's memory) of the same model size at the same bit class. Each side shows the engines and reported context behind its median. Context can mean a configured window or prompt depth, so these are community comparisons with differing settings. How to read these

ModelM4 Max 128GBM5 16GB
Qwen3.8 27B3-bit23.92 runsPP 249.7 (2 runs)llama.cppcontext not stated9.0one runllama.cpp8K context

Estimated by the calculator

The quant the calculator recommends for each card and its estimated speed at a 32,768-token context with 32 GB of system RAM, from memory bandwidth and the model's shape. Where a model was also measured above, the measurement wins.

ModelM4 Max 128GBM5 16GB
Qwen3.8 27B6.7 t/sFP16doesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.8 125B · 6B active30.7 t/sQ5_K_Sdoesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.6 35B · 3B active21.2 t/sFP16doesn't fit at these settings
DeepSeek V4 Flash 284B · 13B active48.3 t/sQ2_Kdoesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.6 27B6.7 t/sFP16doesn't fit at these settings
Gemma 4 26B · 4B active18.2 t/sFP16doesn't fit at these settings
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 552B · 16B activedoesn't fit at these settingsdoesn't fit at these settings

Change the context, RAM or model in the calculator: M4 Max 128GB · M5 16GB

Every report on each card, with its source: M4 Max 128GB · M5 16GB

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