M4 Max 128GB vs NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti for local LLMs
52 reports on the M4 Max 128GB and 3 on the NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti
Which is faster for local LLMs?
On Qwen3.8 27B at 2-bit, the M4 Max 128GB has 24.5 generation tokens/s (2 runs); prompt processing 251.4 tokens/s (2 runs); the NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti has 43.6 generation tokens/s (one run); prompt processing 943.3 tokens/s (one run). Those are community reports whose engines and settings differ, so the gap is a rough sign, not a controlled measure of the two cards. Memory bandwidth, which caps how fast a card can write, is 8% higher on the M4 Max 128GB (546 GB/s on the M4 Max 128GB, 504 on the NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti).
- Memory
- 128GB unified
- Memory bandwidth
- 546 GB/s
- FP16 compute
- 18.4 TFLOPS
- Reports
- 52
- Memory
- 12GB
- Memory bandwidth
- 504 GB/s
- FP16 compute
- 160 TFLOPS
- Reports
- 3
Measured on both
Generation and prompt processing speeds from plain runs (one device, one request, no speculative decoding, the whole model in the device's memory) of the same model size at the same bit class. Each side shows the engines and reported context behind its median. Context can mean a configured window or prompt depth, so these are community comparisons with differing settings. How to read these
| Model | M4 Max 128GB | NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti |
|---|---|---|
| Qwen3.8 27B2-bit | 24.52 runsPP 251.4 (2 runs)llama.cppcontext not stated | 43.6one runPP 943.3 (one run)llama.cpp4K context |
Estimated by the calculator
The quant the calculator recommends for each card and its estimated speed at a 32,768-token context with 32 GB of system RAM, from memory bandwidth and the model's shape. Where a model was also measured above, the measurement wins.
| Model | M4 Max 128GB | NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti |
|---|---|---|
| Qwen3.8 27B | 6.7 t/sFP16 | 1.7 t/sQ8_0, layers on CPU |
| Qwen3.8 125B · 6B active | 30.7 t/sQ5_K_S | doesn't fit at these settings |
| Qwen3.6 35B · 3B active | 21.2 t/sFP16 | 13.9 t/sQ6_K, experts in RAM |
| DeepSeek V4 Flash 284B · 13B active | 48.3 t/sQ2_K | doesn't fit at these settings |
| Qwen3.6 27B | 6.7 t/sFP16 | 1.7 t/sQ8_0, layers on CPU |
| Gemma 4 26B · 4B active | 18.2 t/sFP16 | 82.3 t/sQ2_K |
| DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 552B · 16B active | doesn't fit at these settings | doesn't fit at these settings |
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Every report on each card, with its source: M4 Max 128GB · NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti