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M4 Max 128GB vs NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti for local LLMs

52 reports on the M4 Max 128GB and 3 on the NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti

Which is faster for local LLMs?

On Qwen3.8 27B at 2-bit, the M4 Max 128GB has 24.5 generation tokens/s (2 runs); prompt processing 251.4 tokens/s (2 runs); the NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti has 43.6 generation tokens/s (one run); prompt processing 943.3 tokens/s (one run). Those are community reports whose engines and settings differ, so the gap is a rough sign, not a controlled measure of the two cards. Memory bandwidth, which caps how fast a card can write, is 8% higher on the M4 Max 128GB (546 GB/s on the M4 Max 128GB, 504 on the NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti).

M4 Max 128GB
Memory
128GB unified
Memory bandwidth
546 GB/s
FP16 compute
18.4 TFLOPS
Reports
52
NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti
Memory
12GB
Memory bandwidth
504 GB/s
FP16 compute
160 TFLOPS
Reports
3

Measured on both

Generation and prompt processing speeds from plain runs (one device, one request, no speculative decoding, the whole model in the device's memory) of the same model size at the same bit class. Each side shows the engines and reported context behind its median. Context can mean a configured window or prompt depth, so these are community comparisons with differing settings. How to read these

ModelM4 Max 128GBNVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti
Qwen3.8 27B2-bit24.52 runsPP 251.4 (2 runs)llama.cppcontext not stated43.6one runPP 943.3 (one run)llama.cpp4K context

Estimated by the calculator

The quant the calculator recommends for each card and its estimated speed at a 32,768-token context with 32 GB of system RAM, from memory bandwidth and the model's shape. Where a model was also measured above, the measurement wins.

ModelM4 Max 128GBNVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti
Qwen3.8 27B6.7 t/sFP161.7 t/sQ8_0, layers on CPU
Qwen3.8 125B · 6B active30.7 t/sQ5_K_Sdoesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.6 35B · 3B active21.2 t/sFP1613.9 t/sQ6_K, experts in RAM
DeepSeek V4 Flash 284B · 13B active48.3 t/sQ2_Kdoesn't fit at these settings
Qwen3.6 27B6.7 t/sFP161.7 t/sQ8_0, layers on CPU
Gemma 4 26B · 4B active18.2 t/sFP1682.3 t/sQ2_K
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 552B · 16B activedoesn't fit at these settingsdoesn't fit at these settings

Change the context, RAM or model in the calculator: M4 Max 128GB · NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti

Every report on each card, with its source: M4 Max 128GB · NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti

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